Collinite 845 vs Zaino

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:41 AM

Hi folks,

1st post! I just got my motorcycle tank and tins back from painting. Looks really good with 7 coats of clear! He said he used Collinite`s 845 Insulator Wax to seal it. I`ve read here that it`s pretty good stuff and last a long time. I`m a longtime Zaino user. So, I have a few questions.... Should I strip the Collinite`s off and continue with my trusty Zaino? If so, how do I strip off the Collinite`s? OR, should I keep the Collinite`s on? If I do that, what should I use to keep it shiny (don`t think I could put anything but Z-6 or Z-8 on it)??

Thanks,

-JR

**BMW335i** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:43 AM

Originally Posted by JFR

Hi folks,

1st post! I just got my motorcycle tank and tins back from painting. Looks really good with 7 coats of clear! He said he used Collinite`s 845 Insulator Wax to seal it. I`ve read here that it`s pretty good stuff and last a long time. I`m a longtime Zaino user. So, I have a few questions.... Should I strip the Collinite`s off and continue with my trusty Zaino? If so, how do I strip off the Collinite`s? OR, should I keep the Collinite`s on? If I do that, what should I use to keep it shiny (don`t think I could put anything but Z-6 or Z-8 on it)??

Thanks,

-JR

I would take it off with any mild polish which does not include protectants....as far as I know you are not supposed to wax/seal fresh repaints for at least 3 months, the paint must outgas. Polishing is fine, however.

**joshtpa** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:45 AM

To decide between Zaino and Collinite, you have to figure out which one you like more. I prefer the look of wax now, so I use the wax...But if you already have Z products, dont go out and spend money on Collinite if you like the look of Zaino. Just strip it off and go to work with your Zaino.

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:45 AM

Could I strip it with Dawn dish detergent as Zaino recommnends?

Thanks,

-JR

**joshtpa** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:51 AM

Im sure you could...That is what he recommends, so it should work just fine before preparing to use his products.

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½10:53 AM

Ok, I wasn`t sure if Dawn would strip the Collinite. Zaino prob wouldn`t stick unless the Col was totally stripped off.

**imported_paradigm** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½11:00 AM

i`m with what was said above...if you already have Z, don`t spend the $$$ on collinite (unless you want to expand your arsenal). 845 is excellent stuff...durability is in-line with Z...depending on conditions it is within weeks or a month of a few coats of Z. it`s cheap and one bottle will last you for the rest of your natural life on a motorcycle.

845 is also a PITA to remove from applicators. being "detergent proof"...it takes a lot of dish soap to clean it off. to ensure it`s all gone, i would hit it with a paint cleaner or light polish, as said above.

get those pics up for us!!!!!!

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½11:06 AM

Originally Posted by paradigm

get those pics up for us!!!!!!

only 4 more posts to go until I can post pics!

-JR

**wannafbody** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½11:27 AM

a dawn wash won`t remove 845. Zaino is the better looking product IMO.

**stilez** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½11:55 AM

Originally Posted by BMW335i

I would take it off with any mild polish which does not include protectants....as far as I know you are not supposed to wax/seal fresh repaints for at least 3 months, the paint must outgas. Polishing is fine, however.

Zaino will allow new paint to breathe and cure properly while still protecting it. I have done this personally on many freshly painted surfaces.

Any paste wax will *not* allow for this and will in-turn cloud the surface. On one instance (on my Integra), it caused the paint to have an uneven texture.

While no head-to-head tests were ever done, I`ve never had a problem sealing fresh paint with Z.

**imported_memnuts** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½01:36 PM

Dawn wash will probably not remove freshly applied Collinite. Just wipe down with some isopropyl alcohol (IPA) and inspect finish for any marring that may have been hidden by such a questionable "early" application of a wax product to a freshly painted surface. If mar-free, just do your normal Zaino application and enjoy riding for the rest of the summer.

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½06:38 PM

IPA is safe for the new paint job?

**joshtpa** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½06:40 PM

I would not put IPA on a new paint job IMHO

**JFR** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½06:45 PM

Thanks Josh... I don`t feel too comfortable with that, either. I might call Collinite HQ tomorrow to find out what the recommend to remove the 845.

**joshtpa** · 05-28-2007,ï¿½06:47 PM

I used P21S Total Autowash and it removed every bit of Zaino that was on my car so that I could start over with different products. I love the P21S TAW. Very harsh, but good.